Kyon x Itsuki Complete Each Other

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Haruhi-chan 21 shows the Kyon x Itsuki tension getting tauter and tauter (I’m not sure my phrasing even makes sense but you get the point).  Now, I don’t want to get into canon issues here or anything so–nah, you know what? f*** that!  Let me deal with canon for a moment.

DIGRESSION BEGINS HERE.

Why isn’t Haruhi-chan canon?!  You tell me because it wasn’t created by Tanigawa, the original author of the Haruhi light novels.  Why is the anime canon then??  I’ve read the first three novels so I know KyoAni was very faithful to the source but surely not 100% faithful.  Are only the animated sections that have exact counterparts in the novels to be canon?  But that’s ridiculous.  And is the color scheme of Mikuru’s dress on a particular day in the anime canon if it was left unspecified in the novel?

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Maybe you’ll say, there are two canons: light novel and anime, and the interrelationship between them creates a supercanon.  OK, I say, let’s throw Haruhi-chan‘s canon in that mix!  Oh, you say, but then it should be on a lower tier because blah blah blah…and we could go on like this for a while.

The truth is the only true living canons worthy of the name are those inside people’s heads.  And so let me announce that Haruhi-chan is inside my mental Haruhi canon.  Which is of no consequence to the subject of this post, which is the  Kyon x Itsuki relationship.  That’s why I called this a digression.

DIGRESSION ENDS HERE.

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It makes sense that Kyon and Itsuki would approach each other.

a) They’re both young and handsome.

b) Mikuru is a time-traveler, in dating terms we call this “high maintenance” (butterfly effect etc).

c) Yuki is not human.  Not yet, anyway.

d) Haruhi is unattractive.  This last point might sound shocking, and I should really rephrase it: Neither Kyon nor Itsuki find Haruhi attractive (dispute this to your hearts’ content, it still won’t make iit any less true).  Add to this the dangers of dating God…

e) Because of Haruhi, Kyon and Itsuki must spend a lot of time together.

Ultimately, within the tightly bound realm of interconnected relationships created by the Haruhi phenomenon, Kyon and Itsuki are the most alike.  They share temporal and spatial origins!

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Viewed from a meta-perspective, which is not “fair criticism” but what the hey, I’ll throw it in anyway, the fame and glory that Mikuru, Yuki and Haruhi attract in the otakusphere would be severely emasculating for two teenage boys, inexorably driving them into each others’ arms.

They say the upcoming Haruhi photobooks will have a volume for each of the girls and one volume for Kyon and Itsuki.  Before Haruhi-chan ever hit YouTube, this would have simply confirmed that the two men were the least popular characters in the show.  But after 20-odd episodes of Haruhi-chan we start to suspect that the “love that should be” is well underway.

In this case, of course, the images speak for themselves far better than I could.  The jigsaw piece in particular is very telling.

~ by animekritik on April 25, 2009.

14 Responses to “Kyon x Itsuki Complete Each Other”

  1. >>and I should really rephrase it: Neither Kyon nor Itsuki find Haruhi attractive

    Even though Kyon has called Haruhi hot, attractive, and beautiful on numerous occasions throughout the anime……

    >>the fame and glory that Mikuru, Yuki and Haruhi attract in the otakusphere would be severely emasculating for two teenage boys

    In January 07, in Megatokyo forums’ character contest, Kyon beat Haruhi in the final match as the most popular character of the year. In addition, Kyon has Kyonko who is arguably as popular as any of the girls (going by doujin content and volume). In addition again, Kyon and Itsuki do have asstons of fujoshi fans, as was lampshaded in Lucky Star, though it was also lampshaded that he wouldn’t sell as well because he was male.

    Still, Kyon is easily the most popular harem lead of all time.

  2. To say that they complete each other is to say that they are incomplete without each other.

    No. They are whole and complete, and this Haruhi conundrum is but an external and contingent problem that doesn’t speak of internal deficiencies in either.

    Their lives weren’t lacking before she became what she is within their respective spheres. Sure she makes things interesting for us, and perhaps for them, but in no way does it suggest a lack of integrity in the structure of either Kyon or Itsuki’s structure as beings.

    This is the ‘unfair’ part of your criticism on the meta level.

    We can, however read them as two complete individuals subverting the dominance of Haruhi in their lives by providing each other alternative something/someone as pursuit.

  3. @digiboy

    Well, Haruhi’s cute because she’s cute. Sure. Everyone in the school thinks that way. But she repels (by her actions) as much as she attracts, and so fundamentally I don’t see Kyon “attracted” to her (at least not in the serious way that affects his everyday life). So far in the anime I don’t see any of the schoolkids truly attracted to her.

    On the popularity of Kyon, you probably know more than me. I assumed Kyon and Itsuki were at the bottom of the pile. Maybe I was talking of popularity levels in my own world ;)

    @ghostlightning

    I love the idea of subversion. Aren’t they courting universal disaster by this?

    On completeness vs incompleteness, I’d have to see the Haruhi prequel to say for sure, but what are the chances these boys were complete when they were 12 years old?? I sure wasn’t.

  4. Wait, there’s BL in Haruhi-chan? Why did no one ever tell me this?

  5. Courting complete universal disaster is what makes it delicious. They can sheepishly play along with their marginalized roles (Kyon playing the not-exactly-courted to not-exactly-suitor Haruhi) and still witness universal collapse anyway.

    By complete I mean that there’s nothing fundamentally missing in their being that makes them wrong or lacking as beings. Incompleteness in my view is a delusion by humans to label an object of desire (contingent) as an object of necessity (absolute).

  6. “Because of Haruhi, Kyon and Itsuki must spend a lot of time together”

    lol poor Kyon, from the anime it kind of show kyonXharuhi

  7. @adaywithoutme

    Well, I told you. Now you owe me one.

    @ghostlightning

    Oh, yes, I see what you’re saying. Of course, teenagers won’t really understand that so phenomenologically at least they will “experience” a lack.

    @balance

    Well, Haruhi wants Kyon, and what Haruhi wants Haruhi gets. The tricky thing is that Haruhi wants Kyon to want her as she is and of his own free will…

    Itsuki x Kyon makes more sense to me, though.

  8. I never thought I’d agree with shounen-ai, being a straight male and all, but this suddenly sounds a lot more plausible than it ever should…

  9. Maybe you’ll say, there are two canons: light novel and anime, and the interrelationship between them creates a supercanon.

    Can it be a macross cannon?

    As far as your main point though, I had the same thought. I guess the shoujo explosion in the last two screencaps there didn’t hurt. Definitely going to start calling it the “love that should be” now.

  10. [...] tension between Kyon and Itsuki in the context of Haruhi-chan and what I said there applies here (post).    More curiously, though, was the strange silent fanservice that was going on.  Several [...]

  11. Ummm… I don’t support Kyon x Koizumi for a lot of reasons. Also, your argument is full of holes:

    “a) They’re both young and handsome.”

    Last time I checked, being young and handsome and in the same proximity doesn’t make you gay for someone.

    “b) Mikuru is a time-traveler, in dating terms we call this “high maintenance” (butterfly effect etc).

    c) Yuki is not human. Not yet, anyway.”

    These statements confuse me. Mikuru and Yuki have nothing to do the Kyon x Itsuki equation. It’s not some sorted elimination game were “Well if the girls aren’t eligibly I guess I’ll just abandon my preferences”. Kyon and Itsuki DON’T HAVE TO LIKE A MEMBER OF THE BRIGADE! They could TOTALLY like someone outside of the brigade! Just because they don’t like MIkuru or Yuki doesn’t mean they have to like Haruhi or each other.

    “d) Haruhi is unattractive.”

    Matter of opinion. And Kyon has admitted to thinking she’s hot. Also, remember Kinakuda’s sentiment “Kyon always went for the weird ones. The weirder the better.” Haruhi is definitely weird.

    “I should really rephrase it: Neither Kyon nor Itsuki find Haruhi attractive (dispute this to your hearts’ content, it still won’t make iit any less true).”

    “iit” is hard to take people who don’t spell check seriously. Both Kyon and Koizumi have both admitted to finding Haruhi attractive. Kyon has kissed her (in both anime and novel and manga) and Koizumi teased Kyon by suggesting that he himself kiss her (and in the anime he hinted that me might actually love her). They obviously don’t feel nothing. (I know. Scorn the double negative.)

    “Add to this the dangers of dating God…”

    Kyon doesn’t think of Haruhi as god (it’s hard to know what Koizumi thinks beyond “I think Suzumiya-san is charming”). In both the novel and that anime and the manga adaption Kyon says “To me, Haruhi is just a girl” which is an important distinction form God. He may believe she has abilities that are bothersome, but he has to deal with those whether he’s dating her or not so it doesn’t matter.

    “e) Because of Haruhi, Kyon and Itsuki must spend a lot of time together.”

    That is not a valid argument. Who would think that’s a valid argument? Kyon and Koizumi spend time with Taniguchi and Kunikida and Mikuru and Yuki and Tsuruya too.

    “Ultimately, within the tightly bound realm of interconnected relationships created by the Haruhi phenomenon, Kyon and Itsuki are the most alike. They share temporal and spatial origins!”

    I’m like my friend in that respect. But that doesn’t make me a lesbian.

    You seem to be ignoring the fact that Kyon has repeatedly called Koizumi “creepy”, “annoying”, and “suspicious”. I think that amv on youtube illustrates it well: In the best of any situation, Koizumi could like Kyon (judging by how he has qualms about invading Kyon’s personal space) but Kyon is invariably not attracted to him. He often thinks “Why the hell is Koizumi here?” and “That guy should get out of here.” He finds him strange and is often confused by his popularity with the girls.

    In Haruhi-chan it seemed to be a similar situation were the Koizumi X Kyon dilemma is being used as comedy and not as a romance.

    The reason I don’t ship them personally is that I believe ships should be interesting. That being in love with someone should force you into situations and thought processes you aren’t comfortable with.

    Haruhi is not used to caring about people. She dislikes trusting others and is constantly battling reality so as to make the world a cooler place. Kyon grounds her in that respect. Haruhi trusts Kyon (which is why it was so shattering when he almost hit her) and Kyon acts as a reminder of the things you just can’t do (like treating people as things and committing major felonies). Kyon is her second opinion. She tortures him but she’s always mindful of his reactions. If he where to be hurt, it would destroy her (as we see in the TMHS movie where Kyon is comatose and Haruhi stays by his side for the three days he’s out because she’s scared he’ll die if she leaves)

    Kyon also suffers from a very negative view of the world. He sees things as pointless and stupid. Haruhi may be bothersome but she forces him to recognize the good parts of our world and he needs her around to believe that the world is interesting. In both the anime manga AND novel it is when Haruhi threatens to destroy the world that Kyon realizes he actually likes it (it’s also during that time that they kiss) and in the TMHS movie Kyon has a literal inner battle during which he’s forced to admit that he enjoys being with Haruhi and being dragged through all those adventures with her.

    It’s also in the movie that Haruhi disappears and Kyon panics and starts acting in a way that suggests intense fear and desperation. I’d also like to note that Koizumi disappears as well, and Kyon isn’t nearly as upset about that.

    The title of your post suggests that Kyon and Koizmi need each other. But they don’t. They shown no evidence they do.

    • All in all your arguments are better than mine, but let me still comment on your points one by one:

      a) it doesn’t hurt either!!

      c + d) Kyon and Itsuki don’t have to like someone in the brigade, sure, but it makes more melodrama if they do. I must confess, though, that when I was a little boy things worked like this: you looked at all the girls in the class and you chose the one you liked best (and was still available) and then tried to talk to her (dating outside the class was unheard of). So maybe I’m still following this primary school dating model…

      e) I guess you’re right.

      “You seem to be ignoring the fact that Kyon has repeatedly called Koizumi “creepy”, “annoying”, and “suspicious”.” Two items: first, it is the people we find creepy and annoying that often end up being our lovers (or so I’ve heard). Second, you write later “That being in love with someone should force you into situations and thought processes you aren’t comfortable with.” Aha! Exactly. This is what’s great about the notion of Kyon falling for Itsuki.

      I’ve still to watch the movie, but I intend to do that very soon.

  12. errr i completely disagree to the fact that neither Kyon nor Itsuki find Haruhi to be attractive (maybe Itsuki)
    in the very first episode, kyon states, clearly refering to haruhi “There stood before me this amazingly beautiful girl”.

    • My point wasn’t that Kyon denied that Haruhi was physically attractive, but that he wasn’t attracted to her. It happens very often we meet someone the first time and think “oh, how attractive” only to see that attraction wear off (sometimes precipitously) as we actually get to know them :D

      Anyway, you’re right and I’m wrong. Kyon is quite attracted to Haruhi..I can see now there’s plenty of evidence to that effect..

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